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to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone for the first time in days. no details on that conversation. the two sides are at a state mail over raising attacks on incomes over $250,000. an international news alert. there are fears that the syrian government is getting ready to drop a nerve gas on his own people. the gas is being mixed in bombs for potential use. as ainsley earhart reports, the united states is promising consequences for the gas is excused against the syrian people. >> reporter: it appears there has been an alarming escalation in the syrian civil war, the country's government preparing nerve gas bombs and awaiting the orders from president assad to use them. u.s. officials relying on surveillance said there was no evidence that this had begun. >> we have sent an up mistakeable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> reporter: a senior u.s. official telling fox the gas bombs must be used within 60 days in order to be viable inform deployed. the gas could till th
show" from new york. president obama has john boehner boxed in and is done playing games. now it's getting good. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you. >> the president holds the line on taxes and draws the line on the debt ceiling. >> i will not play that game. >> tonight, democratic whip steny hoyer gives me the latest fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from
story, the fiscal cliff debate. and fox 5 learned that president obama and john boehner spoke on the issue today, but the results have not been made public. the white house is asking federal agencies to plan for $100 billion in spending cuts and that is what happened if not resolved. administration believes the deal will be done. john boehner made an offer earlier this week putting $800 billion on new revenue on the table. he got hit hard by the administration and members of his own party. >> we have to cut spending and, i believe, it's super flowous. >> and that is a law, higher rates to go up for the 2072%, including all of you. yes. >> reporter: president obama was speaking to business leaders when he made the comment. he insists he will veto any bill not including tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> the defense department started planning for the roughly $500 billion in personnel cuts. the pin is not talking to the defense contractors of public plans. >>> the council made it clear that it's not following the mayor's lead on several issues. it was evident last night d
with the president, to get serious about solving this problem. >> but president obama says john boehner's presence is not the solution, it's the problem. >> the holdup right now is that speaker boehner took a position, you think the day after the campaign, that said, we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. and i've just explained to you why we don't think that works. >> senate majority leader harry reid has also called republicans out for sabotaging the democratic process. now, putting this all into context, he tweeted out today, harry reid did, "i share the frustration of americans lamenting the lack of progress in negotiations to avoid a massive tax increase on middle class families. but for insight into why negotiations have been tough, consider the failure of the disabilities treaty at the hands of the tea party. those are the same republicans with whom democrats are supposed to find agreement to protect middle class families from a january 1st tax increase?" who could say it better? democrats are not being unreasonable here whatsoever. they are the party of
that the staffs of president obama and house speaker boehner resumed discussions as the two principles remain far from face-to-face negotiation apparently. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry has the latest. >> pulling on the heart strings like he's on the campaign trail, president obama visited a middle class family in virginia. >> a couple thousands dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> again, trying to frame the battle over the miscall cliff as being all about taxes with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%, but e remain optimistic we can get something done that are good for families like this one, and that's good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts while demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this is not about getting a handle on deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he has. >> white house aids reject the republican
? even though president obama and john boehner chatted on the phone, there's still no deal. republicans are not amused. >> incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seem perfectly happy. perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. >> many americans don't have much hope the two side also come up with a deal. they've moved on already to plan b. the retired teacher in utah has put off plans to get a new car. brian chandler, data manager in atlanta is delaying buying a house, despite needing space for his second child due any day now. several families told us they're shrinking the gift pile beneath the christmas tree this year. how about you? are you prepared if the nation goes off the fiscal cliff? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolc facebook.com/carolcnn. your responses later this hour. >>> what's it like living high above the earth? how do you celebrate the holidays? i'll ask astronaut kevin ford. he will join me, live, from the international space station. ♪ [ male an
cliff. president obama and john boehner did speak on the issue today, but the results of that conversation not public. the white house has now asked federal agencies to plan for more than $100 billion in cuts. that's what happens if the issue is not resolved by december 31st. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you, yes? >> president obama speaking to business leaders when he made that comment today at the white house. insists he will veto any bill that does not include tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> coming up an online shopping horror story, a maryland woman's story may convince you to read the fine print. >> last night we were around 60 degrees most places at this hour. tonight we're some 20 degrees colder than that. i'll let you know how low it gets overnight and if we'll see more warm air on the horizon, but get ready for a chilly overnight. the rest of the forecast is coming up on the news edge at 11:00. >> this is fox 5 news e
on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone call in days with both sides staying mum on the details. this afternoon president obama's fiscal photo-op off the day takes him to the suburban home of a middle class families in virginia, one of the thousands who responded to the
on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone
, president obama spoke with john boehner and eric cantor says the gop is ready to, quote, talk specific. if an agreement is not reached, defense employees will take a hard hit. almost half of the automatic cuts that would take effect will impact the department of defense and civilian employees are expected to be first to feel it. >>> new this morning, the duchess of cambridge is out of hospital and as we see in this video, just in to the newsroom, she and prince william were seen leaving about 0 minutes ago to head to kensington palace. the couple is expecting their first child and kate had been hospitalized for severe morning sickness. her stay in the hospital was uneventful except for a prank call by a pair of australian dj is pretrending to be the queen and prince charles. >>> same-sex couples in washington state line up to say i do and the state rolls out a controversial new law that legalizes smoking pot in private. >> a software giant arrested. john mcafee is at the center of an investigation into his neighbor's murder. that is not why he was taken into custody. we'll explain when
-minute phone conversation yesterday between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both sides describe that conversation, scott, as direct and candid. those are words custom early reserved for diplomacy between sworn adversaries and tonight that might be where we are. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. now, have a look at these two pictures. president obama and mitt romney at the final debate, the last time they shook hands, until today, when the president hosted a kind of "bury the hatchet" lunch at the white house. the two men promised to work together on shared concerns if the opportunity arises. the united nations voted overwhelmingly this afternoon to recognize the palestinian territories as a state. something palestinians have as a sight. something palestinians have sought for generations, but a diplomatic setback for the u.s. and israel. th the territories on the west bank, the jordan river, and along the gaza strip are home to palestinians displaced by the war that created israel in 1948. today's vote doesn't create an independent palestine. that would have to come in
boehner and president obama to work out a deal? >> 24 hours. >> yeah. >> about 24 hours. boehner has the deal in his head he wants. his problem is he's trying to figure out how he gets that deal, not just in the room but then out of the room. with his caucus. and that's just the reality of it. i mean, you've got, again, republicans feel burned on this. republicans also feel engaged on it simply because that's what they ran on. and that's been a big part of the fiscal argument for republicans for the last two or three years has been controlling the spending, the size and growth of government. controlling the ability of the government to confiscate more of your wealth, to trust more on the middle class and the working class, small business owners. and that's really kind of the link. and that argument, you talked about being primaried, that's the central primary argument that will be -- hit them upside the head in two years when they run is wait a minute. we sent you to control spending, yet you increased taxes. it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase
. keep doing. go long. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner both talking today about the looming fiscal cliff. but not to each other. the president was making his case on the road while boehner was dismissing the white house proposal as a joke. cnn senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins us live from the capital. dana, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, joe, it turns out he laughed at geithner when he proposed the white house package which includes $1.6 trillion in tax increases. instead, today mcconnell floated to "the wall street journal" the idea of revenues by medicare and eligibility age, but democrats are very dug in. they say anything that doesn't include tax increases on the wealthy is a nonstarter. a day after getting a white house proposal the republicans greeted as a joke, they're not laughing. >> now, the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal and much to my disappointment it wasn't a serious one. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner rushed to the cameras to respond to the president's campaign-style event at a
not sitting down to talk. >> but there was some encouraging news yesterday. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak on the telephone. right now, though, there's no evidence any future negotiations are scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1 for those earning more than $250,000 a year. but extending them for everyone else. >> just 32% think the cuts should be extended across the boards. >> at 6:37 rchtion it's time for -- at 6:37, it's time for another your money report. >> jessica doyle is talking about the real possibility we actually will indeed go over the cliff. >> they say good things come to those who wait except maybe in the case of the fiscal cliff. timothy geithner said the administration will absolutely take the leap. but some say both sides could wait till january to get down to business without any big economic consequences. the expiration of the bush tax cuts forcing tax rates higher on 90% of americans won't be felt right away. some economists actually call this the fiscal float instead of
cliff talks. kayla is live with that. >> reporter: a little bit of movement potentially. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone yesterday as democrats and republicans continue to dig their heels in over this budget standoff. there's been no announcement of any new face the face talks as lawmakers try to reach a deal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff in january. treasury secretary tim geithner tells cnbc republicans have made a little progress, but the obama administration is "absolutely ready to go over the cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise tax rates on wealthy americans." apple has lost a bit of its shine. the tech giant stock suffering its worst day in four years on thursday. several factors may have been at play. investors worried apple may be giving up ground in the tablet market to rivals, while nokia beat the company to the punch. there are also unconfirmed reports a stock clearinghouse firm is reducing the margin requirements on apple stock. apple lost $35 billion in market value yesterday. to put that into perspective, there are 417 companies listed
their own people. >>> president obama and john boehner will talking on the phone about the fiscal cliff. still, there's no real progress. this all comes as another republican says he's willing to break ranks regarding this. tom coburn said that he -- some are looking for a way to save grace as they move in. >>> allison turns reports, hundreds of thousands of california jobs could be lost. alison? >> reporter: and dave, the defense industry projects about 135,000 jobs would be lost in california over the next few years if those tax increases and massive spending cuts kick in at the end of this month. if there's no deal on those, the pentagon was initially told not to plan for the cuts. that's all changed. in the last 24 hours, the pentagon leaders say they are preparing to slice about 10% of the budget. if we go over the fiscal cliff experts predict one in five defense contracts in california could be -- would be lost. both parties say there's still time to reach a deal and avoid those major losses. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure this gets reso
, good evening. we're just now learning that president obama spoke to house speaker john boehner by phone this afternoon. but we're not hearing of any progress on avoiding the fiscal cliff or on raising the nation's debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion. there are new concerns about what could happen to the country's credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limit. president obama talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may re newsto raise the country's debt ceiling to get their way on spending cuts and risk defaulting on the country's loans. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperorer. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising reven
obama and house speaker john boehner. both are still sticking to their separate plans. the president's plan raises taxes on the top 2% to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue, while the gop wants to close tax loopholes to raise half as much. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> the white house says they are also concerned that republicans may use the debt ceiling, which will need to be raised early next year to get their way on tax and spending cuts. the pentagon is already planning major cuts in case there is no deal. the preliminary plan is to cut 500 billion dollars in jobs and programs. the pentagon's spokesman says those cuts could force the defense department to abandon its new military strategy. it's also likely to affect spending on weapons and technology programs as well as how the military provides for troops and their families. >>> two australian radio hosts
.c., the standoff continues. house speaker john boehner says he is still waiting for president obama to make his next counteroffer to the republican plan he rejected. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the. we want to talk specifics. >> reporter: whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the g.o.p. doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans appears willing to concede that point, the party's position seems unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position i think the day aft campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but we're
. i think it's far fetched. i don't think either of these men, president obama or john boehner, want to see this country go off the fiscal cliff. there's obviously too much at stake not only politically but for the lives and welfare of americans. i think that's foremost in their mind, even given all the politics. so thelma and louise, whatever conspiracy theories we see right now, they might be justified because we're at a standoff at least publicly right now as we head into december, alex. >> mike viqueira at the white house, thanks for that. >>> joining me for more front page politics, perry bacon junior and political contributor for the "washington post." perry, the president's plan is pretty ambitious. what is the strategy here? >> the strategy is to move this debate to the left. i mean, a lot of times you saw in these first four years obama would kind of start in the center on a plan and then the republicans could move to the right a little bit. in this plan, obama knows republicans don't support stimulus money. they don't support $1.6 trillion in taxes. he's saying i won the el
nothing to do with what's going on between boehner and obama. >> to some extent that's true. >> reid is the guy that pushed obama to extend the bush tax rates in 2010. so reid would i suspect -- >> i'm starting to like him more. i thought of him as senator pat geary from godfather 2. but everybody loves harry. there's a song everybody loves harry. anybodies that that has anything to do with casinos loves harry. just a quick question. you were a big cap guy for a long time. now dividends rates where going up. are you still a big cap guy? i've been a small cap guy. i'll tell you you why. >> when did you switch? >> this is a while ago. the reason why, number one -- it's a growth story. >> do you like the natural gases play ms in small cap? >> the way we've invested, we haven't been looking at producers. we're looking at users of natural gas. i think that's been a little bit better. >> we'll hit that break at 6:50, the one that we keep -- >> let's do it. >> and write a six minute tease for that break. i'm going to have time to read the entire thing and people at the end of that tease, no
yesterday, president obama and house speaker john boehner got on the phone. >> reporter: that may not sound like much, george. but it's the first time the two men have spoken in a week. and what may be the most significant sign of progress, neither side talked about what was said on the call, an indication they may be serious about negotiating in private. >> we're starting to see some republicans concede that tax rates on the wealthy, at least, are going to have to go up. the president has another rock-hard bottom line. that's an increase in the u.s. debt limit, as well. >> reporter: that's right. republicans even top republicans, say the tax rates are going to almost certainly go up. but on this question of the debt ceiling, the government reaches the limit of how much money it can borrow in february. republicans say they will exact a price for that. they want spending cuts, if they can't get exchange for the tax increases. they will raise the debt ceiling. >> the president saying he's not going to negotiate on that, either. >>> now, to a major headline for parents about a popular affordab
the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligibility ag
. first, president obama speaks in pennsylvania, followed by john boehner responded to the president from capitol hill. then eric cantor response of the lighthouse deficit reduction package. later, nancy pelosi addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end of the bush tax cuts on those earning more than two and a $50,000. ed -- more than $250,000. ["hail to the chief" plays] please have a seat. have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello. it is good to be back in pennsylvania. it is good to be right here. i want to thank michael, robert, and the investor, joel glickman for hosting me today and giving me a great tour. stand up so everybody can see you, guys. [cheers and applause] there you go. we have a couple of outstanding members of congress here. [cheers and applause] now, i just finished getting a tour of the workshop. i have to say it makes me wish that joel invented this stuff sooner when i was a kid. back then, you couldn't build a roller coaster out of your erector set
. in an hour, president obama speaks to ceo's at the business roundtable, followed by news conferences with house speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of six-three, i believe, and they will say that is precedent. indiana had a voter i.d. -- >> they decided on the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish id they did not say all of that was subsequently -- >> they talked about indiana. you misrepresented what i said. the supreme court is the law of the land. >> when i hear these accusations that black people voter i.d. loss disproportionately affect minorities -- implies to me that somehow we have something missing in our brain. as -- if white americans can get id to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow they are not good enough? that is what bothers me about a lot of the rhetoric coming from democrats and the left. we always have to make -- there has to be a special mass when we deal with minorities because they ar
the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight not due back until next week, but house speaker john boehner is staying behind ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making over $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich. >> reporter: house republicans say if bush era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. max olson opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> if you add their payroll plus an extra tax amount, then i might not be able to hire them because of it. >> reporter: president obama pressed his case tuesday with ceos of some of the country's largest companies. >> and i'm here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: t
they go up to capitol hill meeting with senate majority leader harry reid and house speaker john boehner. >> let's talk about the negotiations themselves. president obama put out his plan. the republicans rejected it. the republicans put out a plan yesterday, and the president rejected it. what should we make of this? >> reporter: well, right now it shows at least publicly both sides are fully entrenched in not wanting to budge on some very specific issues. the president wanting taxes to go up on wealthy americans, those extension only for middle class americans. republicans saying no way at all, and beyond that while they might have some agreement on other issues, those remain the sticking points. i did hear from an administration official a short time ago who told me no update whatsoever when i asked whether or not there would be some counteroffer, i guess, the counteroffer from republicans. so that remains the big sticking point, and it appears that until there's some movement on that, there really won't be an agreement. >> and before you go, i understand speaker boehner and the presi
already high level between the staff of john boehner and the obama administration. host: could this issue to be treated separately? guest: no. i think it will be decided in some kind of package at the end of the year. it could be a small package but they need to make a decision. host: kenneth, good morning. caller: i don't think the american people will get anything unless we let things go over the fiscal cliff. republicans will never agree to anything. i think obama needs to stick to his guns. guest: that is one of view of some liberals and some republicans say let's go over the cliff. then you get to cut tax rates. that is easier politically to do. nobody says it is their first choice. some say the democrats could have more leverage if we go over the cliff. some think tanks have said and most people understand it is a slope. it will be gradual. many people are looking to the stock-market to see what their reaction is if there is not a deal. that could have its own impact on the economy. host: author any strong advocates in the administration who maintain the payroll tax cuts? guest: chr
. the real work is being done behind three closed doors -- senator reid's, speaker boehner's and president obama's. host: we'll have to wait and see. thank you for talking to our viewers this morning. appreciate it. guest: thank you. >> reminder that you can see "washington journal" every morning at 7:00 eastern here on c-span. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> the house will hold a series of votes on suspension bills which would end their legislative week. we'll have votes on three bills coming up. the house is in recess right now and we expect them to return any moment. we'll have live coverage when the house gavels in here on c-span. real quickly, the senate gaveled in this morning at 9:30, offering general speeches during the day. this afternoon they'll take up a u.s.-russia trade bill. majority leader harry reid expecting to complete that bill today. they may also consider the nomination of michael shea to the u.s. district judge of connecticut and nomination of carol galante of california to be assistan
on this fiscal cliff and there's no doubt that president obama is on the side of the 98% and john boehner is on the side of the 2%. the republican party right? i think it is as clear as that. don't the american people see that? >> i think that's why the president is going around the country to put pressure on them because in the end i mean the end, the tax cuts expire and so tax rates go up and the president comes back to congress and says you know, give the tax break back to the middle class and i don't know what republicans are going to do then. they're going to continue to try to fight for the 2%. i don't know. but he's doing it right and he shouldn't see -- he shouldn't seed the ground on that issue. he shouldn't seed it. that was what the election is about. republicans are trying to say well george bush tried that with social security. george bush in '04 didn't talk about privatizing social security. he wouldn't have won. he acted like that was his mandate. he was going to spend his capital for it. this was an e
a republican counter offer that president obama initial plan to get the country off the fiscal cliff. we have details of what house speaker john boehner calls a bold offer. what if we jump off the cliff? we talk about the budget cliff with the ranking member vis van hollen. egypt constitutional crisis goes on. judges from the highest court say they are afraid to do the jobs. "special report" from washington with breaking news from the middle east starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: last week, i went on a tour to promote my book "the joy of hate" which took me from florida, to alabama, and georgia. to tennessee. some call this the south with sarcasm. a buddy of mine gave me flick "deliverance" to watch as a joke. but i freaked out, large crowds with mom for daughters and sons for dads. dads for daughters. so many brought food from pumpkin bread to moonshine. that nearly killed me. more unicorns to shake a horn at. each place i went fan of the five turned on by a parent or their child. this was shared activity, the "the five," "red ey
't care about or being the bad republican like he did this week and was criticizing boehner for rolling over, as he saw it, on the deal with obama. >> everybody is playing this down. i don't. eric ericsson wrote his supporters an e-mail saying this, without jim demint we would most likely not presently have in the united states senate pat toomey, rand paul, mike lee, marco rubio, jeff flake, ron johnson, ted cruz. we would not have a republican establishment that worries that conservatives might actually primary them. demint also had backed candidates who went on to lose their general elections. richard mourdock in indiana, christine o'donnell in delaware, ken buck out in colorado. bob, i'm going to back to this again. when the chief ramrod of the right wing senate candidates leaves the post, who would replace him? how is this good news for the right? >> look, i'm not saying whether it's good news or bad news, i'm telling you what i think his calculation is. his calculation is he can be more of a free agent. i think he will get very involved in primaries, he will push hard right issues.
to bring down the deficits in a balanced way. >> president obama in balance making the case for increasing taxes now. dealing with the big package after the new year. house speaker boehner saying that the proposal up on capitol hill from the administration was in his words "ludicrous." and republicans saying that actually they laughed at the initial proposal from the treasury secretary yesterday. let's bring in the panel. bill kristol of "weekly standard." juan williams, columnist with the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. okay, bill, is this part of the kabuki theater, the dance, choreographed back and forth? or are we really looking at something that is in deep trouble here? >> it looks to me more like the theater. the president understandably is going to put out his optimal scenario first. especially since he is going to try to hammer republicans on the greatest vulnerability, the president will say over and over i propose and the senate democrats passed the tax cut, 98% of all americans to take a lot of, a lot of what the fiscal cliff is. move a lot of the damage to the e
for him to be in. >> so what is the white house -- do they just wait until boehner comes with the tax rate proposal? >> no. i think that they're very sensitive to obama looking like he is leading on this. right? like during the health care debate there wasn't any -- there was some -- during the health care debate -- >> they claim they're not going to do anything until boehner's budget. >> as the clock ticks down, the pressure is going to be on to do something, get something done. >> trivia time we ask name the three governors who had that job, left it and now have it again. we told you it was a super easy one to answer and many of you did. jerry brown, might not only we have a clinton match i think we have a clinton-jerry brown rematch in the primaries in 2016. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animat
the republican party. wait until you hear what jim demint told rush limbaugh today about speaker boehner. >>> plus, michigan police pepper spray protesters after governor schneider calls for a right to work bill that strips union power. president obama just responded to this. we're live in michigan tonight. >>> and it's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. five-year special financing ends december 10th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. >>> have yo
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that a democrat has won for re-election in the last 100 years. with the so-called fiscal cliff looming mr. obama sends chief negotiator treasury secretary tim gheiter for individual meetings with each member of the conditioningal leadership which includes speaker john boehner, perhaps the most important player here. the meetings mark the beginning of the real negotiations. that doesn't mean the posturing stage is behind us. one capitol hill veteran, former fdic, sheila bair, a long-time staffer by the way who butted heads with geithner in the past, made this interesting observation to david gregory about tim geithner saying he's not the right guy for the white house to be sending in for these talks. >> do you think tim geithner, secretary geithner is the right person to lead the negotiations for the administration sf. >> i don't know. i don't think this is tim's strong suit. i think tim was given the job of treasury secretary because he understood the banking system. he's not a budget guy. he's not a tax guy. he's never really worked in this sphere. >> geithner is leading these talks for two rea
. was a major obama fundraiser. we are live back on capitol hill waiting to hear from house speaker john boehner and his weekly briefing. the speaker today was one of the leaders set to meet with treasury secretary tim geithner up on capitol hill today to talk about the fiscal cliff negotiation. we'll be hearing from the speaker shortly. the house gavels back in at noon eastern with just one bill on the agenda today. that's a bill that is a new visa proposal for foreign students earning advanced degrees in science, engineering, and math in the u.s. that's coming up at noon. and back at the white house, the president is having lunch with his former rival, mitt romnifment they are having a private lunch at the white house and also today the briefing at the white house with jay carney. that will get under way at about 12:30 eastern. we'll have that at c-span.org. there's also word today that the congressional organizers of the presidential unanimous consent racial have announced today that the theme of the festivities in 2013 will be called, "faith in america's future." "the washington post" writes
] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> house speaker john boehner responded to president obama's remarks in pennsylvania on the economy and the so-called fiscal cliff. he spoke to reporters on capitol hill. this is about 10 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. the president traveled to pennsylvania to visit a small business today to talk about the fiscal cliff. unfortunately, the president and members of his own party who were proposing that we let many small businesses -- as in hundreds of thousands of them -- go over the fiscal cliff. simply put, that's why we don't have an agreement as yet. they said yesterday, this is not a game. i used to be a small business owner. small business owners are regular men and women from all backgrounds who, in today's economy, are facing challenges on a daily basis. the president's tax increase would be another crippling blow for them while doing little to nothing to solve the bigger problem here, our national deficit and national debt. this debt doesn't exist because we don't tax small businesses enough, it exists because
? caller: because john boehner has been boxed in. everything he does when he goes back, he tells barack obama one thing, but when he goes back to his caucus and comes back, he has something different. eric cantor is wanting to be speaker of the house. everybody knows that. john boehner has no power, he is a middle man. from let's move onto dean the line for republicans. caller: base spend around all day trying to name a post office after somebody rather than the real issues of the day. i suggest we mail all of these people a rope, not so they can safely rappel off of the fiscal cliff so they can hang themselves during the next election. that is what will probably happen to a lot of them. let's get this problem solved it for christmas. host: do you think that will happen before christmas? let's move on to tally on the line for independence. caller: i have been watching the coverage of this thing. i wish the media would turn these guys off until they have something to report that they did rather than reporting what they cannot do. the coverage reminds me of kids on the playground when one
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